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28-2-23

This is Deep State Radio. Coming to you direct from our super secret studio

in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to another of our weekly special editions of the podcast where we talk to someone

who we think deserves some one-on-one conversation. Today I'm real pleased that we are joined by

Ruth Ben Gaid, who's a professor at NYU, author of the book Strongman, a specialist in authoritarian

forms of government, and I welcome you here to the podcast today. Thank you.

Thank you. Nice to be here.

I think you and I were on a TV show week or two ago and we were talking about

some things and it dawned on me that as we were talking and we made some very compelling points

that we kind of need, you know, the Doomsday Clock that the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists does

for nuclear peril in the world. I think we kind of need a Doomsday Clock for democracy

in the United States of America that we can move back and forth as we see things taking us

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