This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein.

They have no moral backbone.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

And that's spicy meatball.

Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSFR Network.

Each week Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing her country as we are

heading into another election cycle and what our leaders are saying and doing about them

or not.

And today we want to tackle something that I know all our listeners have absolutely

heard us utter these words, Norm, debt limits, debt ceiling.

We're going to just go a little bit deeper into what is exactly at stake and why is it

emerging this week in particular as a headline.

And maybe even I'd love Norm to kind of get your take.

I wish we could play and maybe we can try if I can find it quickly.

The Simpsons clip where there was actually a joke about printing like a, you know, or

having a trillion dollar coin or a billion dollar coin.

Make good on this drunken post, Truman authorized the one time printing of the largest denomination

currency ever, a trillion dollar bill, a trillion dollar bill at a spicy meatball.

And sure enough, that's actually one of the offens on the table is for the Treasury to

mint a trillion dollar coin in an, in an effort to deal with it, federal debt crisis.

So if it's okay, let me set the stage a little bit.

I often find myself going back to policy reports when I was on the hill and worked on the

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