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RUSSIAGATE: DIRTY TRICKS, NOT CRIMES. @ANDREWCMCCARTHY @NRO @THADMCCOTTER @THEAMGREATNESSGATE:

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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RUSSIAGATE:  DIRTY TRICKS, NOT CRIMES. @ANDREWCMCCARTHY @NRO @THADMCCOTTER @THEAMGREATNESSGATE:1974

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.0

Kelsey Gabbard is the Director of National Intelligence. And over these last days, Ms. Gabbard has made allegations that come down to this.

0:21.0

During December of 2016, following the election of Donald Trump for the first time,

0:27.4

the Obama administration's principal national security leadership came together

0:31.8

to concoct an allegation that Vladimir Putin wanted Donald Trump to win the election, and therefore everything

0:40.7

else follows, including Russian interference. Andy McCarthy of the National Review Online,

0:48.4

and Thaddeus McCart of American Greatness, joined me to comment on the assertion by the

0:53.2

Director of National Intelligence and the story as we have watched it very carefully for gentlemen I have to now say we've been out this for eight years Andy a very good evening to you the concoction eight years later we're not, but please reveal what it means concocted.

1:14.3

Good evening to you.

1:16.1

Good evening, John, and Thaddeus.

1:19.0

You know, I think the best way to describe what happened here is that whether you call it a political dirty trick or there's a more severe

1:31.6

term for it, the Obama Justice Department, the Obama administration had a legitimate reason to conduct

1:41.8

a foreign counterintelligence investigation, not just in 2016, but really based on

1:50.2

what we know from some of the materials that have been disclosed, going back to 2014,

1:57.0

because there were legitimate concerns of Russian attempts to infiltrate our election system.

2:05.6

They were conducting reconnaissance of it. They were looking for weak parts in the system.

2:11.5

The intelligence community ultimately concluded that they didn't actually do anything in 2016

2:16.9

that would have changed any votes. But there was a lot of concern that they didn't actually do anything in 2016 that would have changed any votes,

2:18.8

but there was a lot of concern that they were up to no good. And there is, there have been

2:27.3

findings unanimously across the intelligence community that Russia did try to meddle in the 2016

2:34.0

election, which isn't surprising. The Soviets

2:36.6

did it going back decades. We do it to them as well. And that they did try to denigrate,

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