This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchel with my two good colleagues, Andrew McCarthy of Natural Review Online,

and Thaddez McCutter of American Greatness.

Golden Oldie is the Russia Gate story.

We've been reviewing our youth.

But here we are in our seniority, and the rule of law is something we can hold on to.

Grand jury testimony.

You have a column up with the National Viewer commenting on the request of the Trump administration

to reveal the grand jury testimony to do with the Epstein matter.

And you make a very clear point that that is not permitted and that the judge

in Florida has written that it is not permitted. Is that correct? That's right, John. The grand jury

proceedings are secret by law. In part, that's because you have to have secrecy in order to conduct

a competent investigation. But in the main, it's because we have a

presumption of innocence in the United States. The grand jury investigates a lot of rumor and

innuendo and even evidence that turns out not to be enough to prosecute people. And we don't

want people convicted in the court of public opinion. So the investigations are secret. The fact that people cooperate with the government

in the investigations is secret. Prosecutors can't talk about it. Grand jurors can't talk about it.

Stenographers can't talk about it. The witnesses who go in to testify are allowed to talk because

they're being compelled to testify, but no one else is allowed to speak about them.

And that's, you know, that's Anglo-American law that goes back a very long time.

There's no, there's a rule that is part of federal law, rule 60 of the federal rules of

criminal procedure, that governs grand jury secrecy, including the exceptions

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