Russia Through the Spymaster’s Prism
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 19 May 2021
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Recent events have shown that Russian intelligence efforts against the United States and the West have continued since the end of the Cold War and have perhaps increased in recent years. In particular, Vladimir Putin appears determined to get even with the U.S. for Russian losses at the end of the Cold War. To discuss the role that intelligence has played in Russia's efforts, David Priess sat down with Jack Devine, who served in many roles over some 30 years at the CIA, including as the associate director of operations and leading the covert action operation, which drove the Russians out of Afghanistan. He's also the author of the recent book, "Spymaster's Prism: The Fight Against Russian Aggression." They talked about Russian aggression and what intelligence can do about it, and they discussed what policies would be most effective against Russia.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | I've been just seen over the years in the service curfewing of times, the reorganization |
| 0:38.0 | and the money that's tremendous, something that is really a more direct path to dealing. |
| 0:43.3 | And we all should have a little paranoid. |
| 0:45.2 | We shouldn't be changing, James Angleton, but we should realize, given the business glory, |
| 0:52.2 | that the part of it is there are allies out there coming at us. |
| 0:56.0 | I also think that in the cyber space we're going to sleep you on it. |
| 1:00.0 | I think we're underestimating the real depth of it. |
| 1:04.3 | Everybody recognizes cyber threat, but I think it's like the way it was describing counter |
| 1:08.8 | intelligence in the abstract, we're going to do this and we're going to do that. |
| 1:12.4 | I think it's a real operation, but we're not tackling it head on. |
| 1:17.9 | I'm David Pries and this is the LawFair podcast. |
| 1:21.1 | May 19th, 2021. |
| 1:25.2 | Recent events have shown that Russian intelligence efforts against the United States and the West |
| 1:30.4 | have continued since the end of the Cold War and perhaps increased in recent years. |
| 1:37.0 | Vladimir Putin in particular appears determined to get even with us for the Russian losses |
| 1:43.2 | at the end of the Cold War. |
| 1:45.8 | That role has intelligence played in the Russian efforts and what can the United States do |
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