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The Bulwark Podcast

Russell Moore: "Losing Our Religion"

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

We are living in a time when an evangelical pastor can literally quote Jesus Christ and a theo-bro will tell him he's weak and woke. How did we get here? And do we get out? Dr. Russell Moore discusses his new book on the weekend pod with Charlie Sykes. show notes: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/709965/losing-our-religion-by-russell-moore/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

These were not the indictments we were waiting for, but that made them feel even more explosive

0:14.1

and damaging. Good morning and welcome to the Bullwork Podcast. I'm Charlie Sex. It is Friday,

0:19.3

July 28, 2023, and we're going to do something interesting today. We have a very special guest,

0:25.2

Dr. Russell Moore, who's the editor-in-chief of Christianity today, and he leads

0:30.6

its public theology project. You might remember Dr. Moore formerly was the president of the

0:36.0

Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, and he has a new book out, Losing Our Religion and

0:40.5

Alter Call for Evangelical America. I've talked with Dr. Moore before and written about him in

0:46.0

my book. In the before times before Donald Trump, Russell Moore was a rising star in the Southern

0:51.0

Baptist Convention, but when Trump came along, he was one of the few leaders who said,

0:57.2

wait, is this really who we want to be? His story is extraordinary. We're going to talk about it

1:03.2

in depth in just a few minutes, but we have to obviously start with the breaking news of the day,

1:07.6

three new felony charges against Donald Trump for attempting to alter, destroy, mutilate,

1:13.4

or conceal evidence. Kind of seems like a cover-up. Inducing someone else to do so, we have a new

1:19.6

defendant, and a new count under the Espionage Act related to a classified national security document

1:26.7

that he showed to visitors at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. So the cover-up is what

1:33.6

always gets you, and it's very dramatic. A lot of mob boss vibes about how they wanted to destroy

1:40.4

the evidence, but I have to think that the big one is the fact that Jack Spitz decided to add this

1:46.0

charge about the Perloined War document that Trump had flaunted at his golf club. Remember,

1:52.5

this is the document that he admits on tape that he did not and could not declassify,

1:58.8

and it's a document he later said did not exist. Jack Smith has the document. Jack Smith has now

2:05.4

included it in the felony charges against the former president. So happy Friday there,

2:13.2

you all remember the tape that we're talking about, because this was a bombshell inside the bombshell

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