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The Good Fight

Russ Muirhead on the Enduring Appeal of Conspiracy Theory

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Russ Muirhead is the Robert Clements Professor of Democracy and Politics at Dartmouth College and a member of the New Hampshire House of Representatives. His latest book, co-authored with Nancy Rosenblum, is A Lot of People Are Saying: The New Conspiracism and the Assault on Democracy. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Russ Muirhead discuss how legislators can find sensible compromise even amidst vehement disagreement, why we misunderstand the popularity of conspiracy theories, and what Democrats can do to broaden their coalition and defeat right-wing populists. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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For the facts, visit Drinkaware.co. UK. And the And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:47.0

Hello, I'm Sarah Longwell, publisher of the Bullwork, and I recently wrote a piece for persuasion

0:58.9

called The New Nialists. I've been a conservative my whole life and I've really seen a shift in the party

1:05.8

you know when I was coming up in the conservative movement the party was

1:10.0

committed to the idea of character mattering. There were reams of books written about

1:16.2

how important it was for leaders, for the country, to have people in politics be of good character. And that is a thing that has not only changed, not

1:28.0

only is that no longer something conservatives or the Republican Party seem to hold as a core value, but it's even worse than that.

1:37.0

They seem to be either celebrating or coming up with excuses for some of the most horrible behavior.

1:45.2

I wrote the piece actually before Paul Pelosi was attacked with a hammer and many Republicans and conservatives reacted. and good Republicans like Glenn Yunken said things like we're going to send

2:04.6

Nancy Pelosi back to be with her husband her husband who was in the ICU from

2:08.0

just being attacked. This sort of total absence now of commitment to character has become a defining feature of the

2:15.9

Republican Party and it's a total reversal of the party that I knew. You have candidates like

2:21.5

Herschel Walker who professes to be a

2:24.6

champion of fatherhood and he's had four secret children come to light during

2:29.5

his campaign. He's had several women allege that he paid for their abortions despite professing that he is pro-life.

2:36.2

And believing there should be no exceptions for rape or incest. And not only do Republicans tolerate that behavior,

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