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The Good Fight

Ed Luce on America’s Future After the Midterms

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Ed Luce is the US national editor and columnist at the Financial Times. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Ed Luce discuss the electoral toll of Trumpism; why Democrats who focus on identity politics fare poorly at the polls; and whether Ron DeSantis poses as great a threat to democratic norms and institutions as Donald Trump. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's that time.

0:03.0

Guess what's brewing at Starbucks?

0:05.0

You already know.

0:07.0

A dash of autumn, hints of spice, topped with whipped cream and blended to perfection.

0:13.0

Wait, is that the...

0:14.0

Yet, the pumpkin spice Rappacino blended beverage is back.

0:18.0

For hot, Ist and all things pumpkin spice,

0:22.0

no one does it better than Starbucks. Subject to

0:26.3

availability while stocks last delivery orders exclude whipped cream.

0:30.8

Cassandra luring a bunch of immigrants, refugees in fact from Texas to Florida in order to

0:37.4

pull off this stunt of sending them to Martha's Vineyard. The obvious thing the

0:41.7

Democrats should have said is these are refugees from

0:45.4

socialism. These are refugees from Venezuela. It's like and you call yourself an

0:51.3

anti-socialist you're're making victims, double victims.

0:54.1

But I don't think there is the mindset of the democratic party to make that kind of a differentiation.

1:01.7

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:04.0

The natural thing to talk about in my little spiel this week is the midterms in the United States,

1:16.0

but I just had a really lively conversation with that and many of my views, many of my points are expressed in that conversation.

1:25.0

So I just want to take a minute to put this midterm election in the broader context of where I think we now stand in terms of a battle between democracy

1:36.4

and authoritarian populism.

1:39.9

And the answer to that, it seems to me, is that the threat from these populist forces continues,

1:49.4

that candidates like the over 200 election deniers who just won high office in the United States

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