There's all sorts of reasons we can get to this numb flat place when the numbness turns into

hardening of heart.

We're going to have these seasons.

I think that's where we have to pay attention to it because then you're going to be hardened to the Lord to the

relationships that matter most to you that you want to cultivate the most.

And what gets hardened is the ability to experience of godly sorrow and therefore repent.

Welcome to Family Life Today,

where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Shelby Abbott and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson.

You can find us at FamilyLife Today.

This is Family Life Today. This is Family Life Today.

Okay, I don't know is this how we start a show, but Jackson Brown, famous song, back in the 70s,

running on empty, running on, running I, should have started a little lower key,

but you ever heard that song, honey?

Come on, I know you have.

I didn't know who it was.

We got a younger couple in the studio.

I wonder if they even know who Jackson Brown is.

David and Meg Robbins, present family life,

back in the studio.

Do you guys know who's Jackson Brown?

You do?

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