All they really wanted to do was win the race.

And it made me realize after a while how powerful this can be

and how detrimental it can be when you're in the middle of a race

and you're looking at your splits thinking, oh, that's too fast or that's too slow,

or I'm not feeling good for this pace.

I think that can have a huge impact on how you actually feel.

That draft from Seoul, 195.

Hey, what's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of That Traathlon Show, the podcast presented by Scientific Traathlon.com.

I'm your host Michael, and on today's episode, I interview Matt Fox, who is the founder of Sweat Elite, that I'm sure many of you will be familiar with,

but for those of you who aren't, we go into what that is in the interview.

In short, we discuss the training patterns and habits of the world's best runners and the methodologies of the world's best running coaches.

And this includes runners like Elliot Kipchoway, Mo Farrah, David

Rudisha, and coaches like Renato Canova in particular, but also we discuss Arthur Lidiar a little bit

and Alberto Salazar, who is Mo Farah's coach. Before we get into the interview, however,

big thanks to our sponsors. First, we have precision hydration. I just recently

listened to Chris McCormack's Maca's audiobook. He's autobiography, I'm Here to Win. And that was a

great book that I highly recommend, by the way. In it, he talks about his struggles in Kona,

specifically with nutrition and hydration, and how it took him a really

long time and hanging out with bodybuilders and discussing with them to figure out the

hydration and electrolyte equation. And when he started actually preloading with electrolytes,

that's when he started to sort those things out because he was a bigger guy. He had a big sweat rate and probably lost a lot of

electrolytes as well. So that's when he started to actually avoid cramps that he used to get every

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