Christopher Rufo is with us again after two years, I believe.

He is a documentary filmmaker, a cultural critic of actually national note at this point,

and a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, though he lives across the country in the Pacific Northwest.

His new book is America's Cultural Revolution, How the Radical Left Conqu conquered everything. That's our topic today.

Welcome, Mr. Rufo. It's great to be with you. First, a personal question. You're involved in many

things, such as advising governors on cultural education legislation, serving as trustee at New

College, where I am as well, and doing it

investigative work on DEI, astonishing investigative work on CRT and DEI in the schools,

the shenanigans in the government, in schools, and corporations as well.

One wonders, where do you carve out the time to write a book that is actually deeply researched?

It has a strong historical angle. It's just not just about current affairs. That's one of the

points. When do you write in your day? Do you reserve a couple hours?

Yeah, absolutely. My schedule writing this book was typically, I reserved about five hours a day

in the morning through the early afternoon, try to do appointments at the end of the day or maybe one call in the very beginning of the day.

And so it was kind of interesting as I was doing all of the reporting on critical race theory and gender ideology and

DEI that was gaining a lot of national attention behind the scenes kind of silently and quietly.

I was spending actually the most most of my time writing this book. And so it's it's a balance

and you got to kind of sneak in to sneak in where you can.

But this was something that I really wanted to do and taking some of the reporting and then going many layers deeper to show people the genealogy of these ideas.

Right.

So that when they read the book, they can see the news in a totally new light.

You actually state the book's purpose as, in effect, quote, to understand the ideology

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