Welcome listeners to the next edition of the Editor's Desk. I'm Rusty Reno, editor of first things, at my desk, in fact.

And today I have with me, Mark Gottlieb, and we are discussing his piece, a Jewish theology

of resurrection in the November 2023 issue. Welcome, Mark. Thanks so much, Rusty. It's very good to be with you. And Mark, you are

chief education officer at the Tikva Fund. Before we learn more about the Jewish Theology of Resurrection,

just tell our listeners, what is the Tikva fund? Sure, the vast, you know,

right-wing conspiracy. If only it was vaster. Yes, I wish. We have a nice Jewish word,

halavai. I only wish it were so. Tikva is an ideas institution and think tank.

We work with students as early as middle school and really pushing younger.

Even we have under our auspices and partnership, we have an immersion, a Hebrew language immersion school in Austin, Texas with first and second graders.

So that's the starting point of our journey with young fewer students. And then we work with them

through the middle school years, through high school, college, gap year,

young professionals, graduate students. And we try to cultivate a leadership cohort for the next

generation, Jews in politics and Jewish thought and academia and the rabbinid and education,

journalism, just trying to educate

the best and brightest of our people to defend Jewish ideas in Jewish life and Western civilization.

Well, may you move from strength to strength? Amen, amen, my friend.

Jewish theology of resurrection. Why don't we start really with the fact that Christianity

has to have something to say about Judaism, but Judaism doesn't really have to have to have

something to say about Christianity, does it? Well, traditionally, many Jews felt exactly as you've

just described, that Judaism, because it predates Christianity, it's the source, both

theologically and historically of the

founding of Christianity, of some of its teachings, and certainly the Bible as a shared inheritance,

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