So I shut the curtains and go back to sleep. And I wake up to, boom! And I go, I'm startled, you know, the bus was shaking. And I opened my curtain. And now, at that moment, I was not ready to accept the possibility of the reality.

Sure.

You just lost your buddy, somebody loved and was close to.

How did you process that?

Because that's not...

I began a robot on stage.

To come from where you've come from, to actually reach the world stage

and play with such great musicians

and be involved with such great music,

it's such a miracle.

Metal health took about 10 years to write.

You know, it's the first album.

You got all these songs that you'll be working on

for the last 10 years, you know.

And the next record took, like, what?

You got six weeks to make this record?

And MTV just ate it up.

So it was them against us.

See, there was the competition.

Did you guys lose?

Yeah.

But that's music, you see. That's the beauty.

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