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A popular mom influencer is called out for potential abuse, but what happens after her YouTube channel failed would shock the nation.

This is the Ruby Frankie story.

Hi, Amy.

I'm surprised we haven't covered this one yet.

Yeah, it's been requested.

I'm sure you've seen it.

It's been requested by several listeners, and it was recently covered in a three-part series on Hulu.

And you watched it, I'm assuming? You know, I wasn't going to, and then I was just clicking one night, and I saw it, and I was like, let me give it a chance.

So I looked at it, and it was really well done. I have to give credit to it. And what I liked about it is that the participants, her family, participated. So it wasn't one of those where they do it and they try to get around everyone. I thought it was done well. There was a lot of footage. And I thought it was as tasteful as it could be for the topic. Let's put it that way. And for those who are maybe not aware of this case, the topic is a case that involves abuse against children. So just consider that as you're

listening. Now, in some of my courses, I actually discuss domestic abusers. And unlike street

crimes, which tend to be visible, abuse often happens in places we don't see,

which really complicates the detection of it and our ability to protect the victims.

And as we both know, children are likely the most vulnerable and the most at risk.

If this case sounds a little bit familiar, it might.

I covered some of these themes in episode

176 about the Turpin family. Do you remember that case, Amy? Yep. I think I even asked you

when I saw this name on our list. I said, I think we covered that one already. Right. So the Turpin family,

there are similarities, but the key difference between today's

episode and that one is that the Turpins did not put themselves in a public light, whereas Ruby

Frankie reveled in her online persona. So before we get any further into the story, let's find out

who Ruby is and how this all happened. Born in Utah in

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