Royal Hansen: Cybersecurity and National Security in the Digital Age

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🗓️ 9 December 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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What is cybersecurity? How has cybersecurity become integrally connected to our national security? What has the War in Ukraine taught us about the vulnerabilities we face? What kinds of cyber threats should we be prepared to meet in the future?To discuss these questions, we are joined by Royal Hansen, Vice President of Engineering for Privacy, Safety, and Security at Google. As Hansen explains, cybersecurity can be understood as the safety, reliability, [and] availability of the technology that has transformed our lives in the past decades. Hansen argues that we have done reasonably well in securing the technologies we rely on. But as we are ever more reliant on technology, we increase our potential vulnerability to threats posed by rogue states and by criminals. To meet future challenges, Hansen advises us to think of cybersecurity as a dynamic and evolving process, in which both private companies and the government must do what is necessary to anticipate threats and maintain supremacy in technology.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations. I'm very pleased to be joined today by Royal Hanson,
0:20.4	Vice President of Security at Google. Someone has worked at high levels on the issue of cybersecurity
0:27.2	at any financial services firms and tech firms and has given this a lot of thought, briefed people on
0:34.1	the Hill and journalists as well as obviously working with his peers in the area on all the
0:39.5	interesting questions, many of the interesting questions at least raised by the real challenges
0:44.3	of cybersecurity and I look forward to getting educated on that today and I'm sure audience
0:48.9	says as well. So Royal, thank you for thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Look forward to it.
0:54.0	That's really, really appreciate it. I know you're busy person, so I really appreciate
0:58.8	you taking the time. So cybersecurity, the name gets thrown around a lot and what is it or what are
1:05.2	the threats that we're worried about and how serious are they and give a little bit of a brief
1:11.5	briefing on this for those of us who aren't in the middle of that world? No, it's a good starting
1:16.3	point because that word has come to mean a lot of different things to people. I like to think of it
1:21.6	two ways. The first is cybersecurity is relevant anywhere you've had technological or data driven
1:32.0	innovation over the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years. So instead of thinking of cybersecurity as
1:38.3	some like maybe air or land or sea, this is that anywhere there's technology that's changed the
1:47.3	way we do work, change the way we live our lives, change the conveniences, think of all the
1:52.6	conveniences that have sort of been brought to bear on the last couple decades. Cyber security
1:59.3	is the safety through reliability, availability of that technology. So that's sort of the one
2:06.9	area is to think really it follows the innovations anywhere we've innovated, invested, changed.
2:13.2	The second part and there's a sort of simple acronym people use this CIA can confidentiality,
2:19.7	integrity, and availability. So oftentimes we get focused on the confidentiality, right? You
2:26.5	read about a breach. It's most of what we've done and some stealing information. But really that's
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