Roy Altman on Why Educated Young People Believe Lies about Israel
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šļø 16 April 2026
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Summary
Roy Altman came to America as a little boy. He came from Venezuela, where his own grandparents had fled to during the Holocaust. Altman and his family arrived in the U.S. with very little and knowing almost no one. Some three decades later, the president of the United States nominated him to serve as a federal judge for the Southern District of Florida, where he became the youngest person ever to hold that position. Being an American has been, he says, among the great blessings of his life; a blessing he repaid in public service.
Then came October 7. And what disturbed him was not only the massacre itself but the reaction in Western media, on college campuses, in institutions that he had assumed shared his most basic commitments. He found it, he says, first ridiculous, then disconcerting, and ultimately shocking. He set out to understand this reaction and then, as best he could, to counter it.
The result is a new book called Israel on Trial, in which Judge Altman applies the methodology of the federal courtroom to the six most common legal charges leveled against the Jewish state: colonialism, illegitimate founding, blocking Palestinian statehood, illegally occupying Gaza, apartheid, and genocide.
In this episode, Altman discusses the book with Mosaic's editor Jonathan Silver. TheirĀ conversation ranges beyond the book's core argument, paying particular attention to something Judge Altman observed about the 50 college and law-school campuses he has visited since October 7, something that points beyond a pathology specific to Israel to a broader crisis in American intellectual and moral life. Judge Altman has a striking way of evokingĀ that crisis, rooted in his daily experience watching ordinary jurors reason their way to correct verdicts while educated young Americans somehow cannot reason their way through the difference between civilization and barbarism.
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| 0:00.0 | Roy Altman came to America as a little boy. He came from Venezuela, where his grandparents |
| 0:14.7 | fled during the Holocaust. They arrived in the U.S. with very little, knowing almost no one. Some |
| 0:20.7 | three decades later, the president of the |
| 0:22.7 | United States nominated him to serve as a federal judge for the Southern District of Florida, |
| 0:28.0 | where he became the youngest person to hold that position. Being an American, he says, |
| 0:32.8 | has been among the great blessings of his life, a blessing that he's repaid and continues to repay in public |
| 0:39.3 | service. Then came October 7th, and what disturbed him was not only the massacre itself, |
| 0:45.2 | but the reaction to the massacre in Western media, on college campuses, in institutions that |
| 0:51.4 | he had assumed shared his most basic commitments. |
| 0:55.3 | Judge Altman found it, he says, first ridiculous and then disconcerting and ultimately shocking. |
| 1:01.5 | So he set out to understand the reaction, and then as best he could, to counter it. |
| 1:06.2 | The result is a new book called Israel on trialrial, in which Judge Altman applies the methodology |
| 1:12.3 | of the federal courtroom to the six most common legal charges leveled against the Jewish |
| 1:17.6 | state. Colonialism, its illegitimate founding, blocking Palestinian statehood, illegally occupying |
| 1:24.0 | Gaza, apartheid, and genocide. Our conversation ranged beyond the book's core argument. |
| 1:30.3 | What interested me most was something Judge Altman observed |
| 1:34.3 | about the 50 college and law school campuses he's visited since October 7th, |
| 1:39.3 | something that points beyond a pathology specific to Israel, |
| 1:43.3 | to a broader crisis in American |
| 1:46.2 | intellectual and moral life. He's got a striking way of evoking that crisis, rooted in his daily |
| 1:53.0 | experience, watching ordinary jurors reason their way to correct verdicts. While educated Americans somehow cannot reason their way through |
| 2:03.2 | the difference between civilization and barbarism. Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host, |
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