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Bam, bam, unleash the power with me. Bam, bam, damn. I'm building you, baby. Damn. Unleash the power with him. Damn. Damn. Jason Waller here. True underdog. We've got a great show for you. Today we've got a roundtable with four entrepreneurs myself. I'm going to introduce on my right first, Brian Elias, CEO and founder of Reflore,

aka B. Brian, say hello. How you doing? And then I've got Jeff Franter Cajinelli. Did I say it

right, Jeff? Good enough. Good enough. And he is the money man, owns a wealth management company.

Jeff say hello to the. Hello, everyone. There you go. And then on my other left is Jeff Sloan, CEO and founder of Startup Nation. We call him Mr. Startup. Indeed. Okay. So what we're going to do on this show, we've done a roundtable before. We're going to talk about opening a business. We're going to talk about overcoming adversity. We're going to talk about investments, opportunities.

Everyone here has either started or been a part of opening a company that have been successful,

whether they sold them or they lost money.

Either way, we want to make sure that we're sharing the tips, the advice, and the information to make sure that you can take whatever you're trying to build to the next level.

So I'll start on my

right. You know, Brian, you built a company up called Hansen's Windows. We've talked about it before in the

podcast and, you know, you sold it. You did really well on it. What was that transition like? How long did it

take you? I'm sure you had in the beginning many days and nights where you lost money or you were

struggling and you had to overcome that. What was that timeline like? And then now what are you doing

since you've really received the fruit of your work? Well, first of all, I didn't have a podcast

like this to teach me anything along the way. Right. So I made every possible mistake that all of the listeners are going to make

if they don't think about what the end looks like before they start. I just did it because I wanted

to start a business. I didn't think the whole thing through, but you want to figure out exactly

what you want your business to look like

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