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Bam, bam, bleach the power with him.

Jason Waller here, true underdog podcast.

I've got a special guest today.

We've got Jordan Harbinger visiting us today.

He's got one of the top 50 iTunes podcasts for over 14 years. The Jordan Harbinger show is one of the most popular podcasts in the world right now. Jordan, how you doing? Good. I'm glad to be here on the Guy Fieri show. Oh, yeah. You know, a lot of people say that. I think that I pull it off a little hotter than he does, but I don't tell him I said that.

Yeah, I mean, you definitely, look, if you, if your job was to go to different restaurants and eat all day, yeah, it'd be a great job. Maybe we couldn't tell you apart, but now we can, now tell me he's not the one that says bam. I think he says, oh, I'm taking the highway to Flavortown. I think that's his thing. Okay, because I say BAM and somebody said some cook or something says BAM, and I'm like, I own BAM. We trademarked them. I think Emerald Lugasi used to say BAM. That's what it is. Yep. Well, I trade. Or Buh, I'm going to let her pass this time. Yeah, let it slide. Yeah, I'm going to let it slide. So I do want to, you know, I'm glad to have you on the show. You're in California.

How's the weather?

Yeah, it'm going to let it slide. So I do want to, you know, I'm glad to have you on the show. You're in California. How's the weather? Yeah, it's hot as hell. But, I mean, at least before, like last week it was like raining ashes from the sky. So I'll take hot over raining ashes from the sky. Are the sky still crazy looking? Like just flames? No. No, no, not where I am in NorCal. It's actually pretty nice outside right now.

I love NorCal. Okay, well, well, good. Listen, if you can just kind of introduce yourself, I know you've had a couple shows, one of them, the Art of the Art of Charm podcast. And I know you've been doing this a hot minute, but kind of talk about what you've been doing and why your podcast is so successful. Yeah, so I do the Jordan Harbinger show now.

Actually, it's funny, I was with this other company for a while. And it's just, you've probably worked with business partners in the past where you're just thinking, like, why isn't things, why aren't things working? Why aren't things working? And then you get off on your own and you're like, oh, I got it because you guys are knuckleheads, you know, and you're dead weight and I don't need you. And so that's kind of where it's been for me for the last couple years is I'm like, oh my gosh, like double in size, double in size, double in size again, as you and I were sort of talking about before the show, and I realized, oh, okay, it really is

funny that sometimes the hole is not greater than the some of its parts, as it were, in business.

So I've been podcasting since 2006, before that I was a Wall Street attorney.

And I started podcasting originally because I was giving talks, and I was like, you know,

if I record these talks, then I don't have to repeat myself.

But there was no place to put a sound file on the internet for other people to go and download.

You were podcasting before it was cool and hip, dude, really?

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