Rosie O'Donnell Did Not Become an Artist to be Liked
The Best People with Nicolle Wallace
MS NOW, Nicolle Wallace
4.5 • 3.3K Ratings
🗓️ 29 September 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | People saying I'm canceling my trip to Disney. I'm canceling my Hulu, my Disney Plus, |
| 0:13.7 | $4 billion in four days. Bravo America. And this is how much power we have. And don't let them tell you we don't. |
| 0:28.0 | Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Best People podcast. This week's guest is known the world over. |
| 0:34.3 | She's an icon known for making people laugh. And these days, making a lot of us think |
| 0:39.6 | really hard and really deeply about the things happening around us to other humans. She and I were |
| 0:45.0 | cast originally as political adversaries. Luckily for me, we have since become friends and allies. |
| 0:52.9 | My deepest, deepest thanks to you, Rosie O'Donnell, for appearing |
| 0:56.9 | on the Best People podcast. Thank you so much. Well, I'll do whatever you need, Nicole. |
| 1:08.4 | We had our magical flight where we sat together to Miami and everything shifted and it was a |
| 1:14.7 | beautiful thing. I mean, I think that's a great place to start because I think that maybe the whole |
| 1:21.5 | country is locked in these castings as enemies and you never saw people that way. And I understand now that your pain wasn't about |
| 1:30.0 | politics. It was about things that people were doing to humans. And I wonder, as someone who I know |
| 1:35.7 | feels everything, how you're doing. You know, I will say that I came here out of self-preservation. |
| 1:42.7 | You know, some people said, oh, you're making a political statement. I didn't tell |
| 1:45.9 | anyone I was moving. I read Project 2025 and I saw that he won and I called my therapist and said, |
| 1:53.1 | I need to go to Ireland. This was the only place. I'm a hundred percent Irish. I was here as a little |
| 1:59.2 | kid after my mother died. And, you know, this is where my people are. |
| 2:04.1 | So I went to my people. And it was totally because I knew how badly I did during his first term. |
| 2:12.4 | And I knew now that I had a daughter about to be 12, that I needed to be present, awake, and aware for the |
| 2:21.2 | teenage years. They're not easy, and they're not easy when you're 63. So I adopted this baby at 50, |
| 2:29.9 | and I owe her the best part of me, and I couldn't afford the risk of being completely debilitated |
| 2:39.1 | by what was about to happen, and everything I feared and everything I read in that book has come true. |
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