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🗓️ 30 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | My sister, she says, then I don't know if I agree. I disagree, I think, but she says that my music |
| 0:05.0 | is not pop, but she says that I am. That's what I'm saying. That's the theory that I was saying. |
| 0:10.4 | I disagree. Why? Because I want to think that my music is pop. There has to exist another way of |
| 0:17.3 | making pop. Bjork proved it. Kate Bush proved it. |
| 0:21.5 | I need to think that what I'm doing is pub. |
| 0:24.6 | Because otherwise, I don't think then that I am succeeding. |
| 0:44.7 | Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your deepest dwinday of music news and criticism. |
| 0:46.9 | I'm John Caramonica, and I'm the critic. |
| 0:48.7 | I'm Joe Kaskarelli, and I'm the reporter. |
| 0:52.6 | I'm Rosalia, and I'm here today with you guys. |
| 0:53.2 | Yes. |
| 1:28.6 | Thank you so much for being here. Like literally, on some days, Joe. Some days. On some days, I think, is this person the only good pop star? What? Some days I think. No pressure. No, I'm sorry. It's a big statement right there. But it has to be said. It has to be said. Damn. There are days that I genuinely feel like. You know what I felt that? Not to jump ahead in the conversation when I walked out of the Motamami tour. Yeah. I was just like, no one else is good. No one else is good. I'm sorry. Really buttering you up to just get going. I don't, you know, I don't over, I don't do that. I don't over in that. |
| 1:28.7 | And we've had many of my favorite people on this show. |
| 1:32.0 | But some days, I'm just like, is there only one good Bobstar and is it Rosalia? |
| 1:35.8 | That's all I'm here to say. Rosalia has had an ambitious, widely varied, and ultimately, profoundly successful career, starting as a radical flamenco singer, turning into one of the biggest Spanish |
| 2:02.0 | language pop stars on the planet. |
| 2:17.4 | She broke out in 2018 with the release of El Mar Kare, her baccalaureate project at school. |
| 2:22.2 | She went on to win the Latin Grammy for album of the year, as did its follow-up Motomami, |
| 2:28.5 | which explored Caribbean traditions in reggaeton and beyond. |
| 2:40.5 | When the cupita de jello... European traditions in reggaeton and beyond. Her fourth album is called Lux. |
| 2:43.0 | It is, I don't want to say totally unlike everything that preceded it, but it certainly is on its own wave and its own rhythm. |
| 2:50.5 | And it features an appearance by Bjork and extremely lush string arrangements. |
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