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🗓️ 24 March 2025
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Rob is joined by former UK politician Rory Stewart for a discussion on the state of British politics, including government inefficiency and the rise of populism. Rory Stewart gives his take on everything from the UK's economic challenges to Trump's leadership style, drawing from his own experience in government and talks about how we could fix politics in the UK. They also discuss inequality, political communication and the many flaws in democracy and politics right now.
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"During the second World War, our economy contracted by 45%. We were about half as rich in 1945 as we were in 1939. Where the UK is, is it's been through a phase of kind of 10, 12 years of being pretty stagnant at a moment where the US has been growing fast."
"The top three people in the US, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, their wealth is equivalent to the bottom 50% of the entire American population. They now have more money than 160 million American people. Thank God we haven't reached those levels yet."
"I kept saying to them, what are you doing? Right? All of you know, looking at your spending plans that you're gonna have to put up taxes and borrow more money because you've got a 70 billion pound black hole and all of them denied it all the way through the election."
"The problem in America and Britain is we never seem to get the balance right and boy has the balance gone wrong with the billionaires, they have created virtual monopolies. Think about Google, it’s got us all over a barrel."
"I don't know whether I'd go for Prime Minister again but I'd definitely like to look at doing something for the country. I think there's no job in government, no job in the world, more interesting than government that touches lives more directly."
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0:00.0 | Rory, is the UK in rapid decline? |
0:05.0 | No, no, it's not. I think we've got ourselves in a hysterical fit. |
0:10.0 | The UK has been in moments of rapid decline. |
0:12.0 | I mean, during the Second World War, our economy contracted by 45%. |
0:16.0 | We've got about half as rich in 1945 as we were in 1939. |
0:20.0 | Where the UK is, is it's been through a phase of kind of 10, 12 years of being pretty stagnant |
0:27.1 | at a moment where the US has been growing fast. |
0:30.0 | And that makes us feel uncomfortable and awkward. |
0:34.2 | But I think a couple of things to say that. |
0:36.2 | One is that I'm a bit skeptical about |
0:38.6 | US growth and how long it will continue and what that model is. So before we get overly |
0:43.0 | excited that America's cracked everything. And the second is that a lot of the troubles we're |
0:48.3 | facing are to do with the fact that we're growing older, that we expect a very high level of public services |
0:55.2 | that they don't expect in the US, for example, public health systems and stuff. And also that we're |
1:01.1 | generally pretty impatient and grumpy because we're in a world where we're used to kind of instant |
1:06.7 | stuff. We're in the world, obviously, of Uber and Deliveroo and Instant Apps, and we're dealing with |
1:12.5 | government, which is, at the best of times, a pretty slow-moving beast. |
1:16.8 | So do you think we've had it good for a long time and now we're hitting some realism? |
1:22.9 | Because I sometimes wonder if we were out at the end of the Second World War rebuilding our nation, |
1:30.0 | we'd be very grateful for where we are now. But at the same time, inflation is compounding up a lot. |
1:37.8 | It seems your energy prices are going up a lot. Everyone's disposable income or affordability |
1:43.9 | does seem to be a lot lower. So back to |
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