Ronny Tong: Has China killed Hong Kong's special status?
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BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 6 July 2020
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Residents of Hong Kong are living with a new reality - a draconian national security law made in China and imposed on the territory with no meaningful consultation. Pro-democracy activists call it the death of the 'one country, two systems' principle established 23 years ago. HARDtalk's Stephen Sackur speaks to Ronny Tong, once a pro-democracy politician, now a loyalist of the Beijing-backed Hong Kong government. Has China just killed Hong Kong's special status?
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. |
| 0:04.2 | My guest today has been an influential voice in the public life of Hong Kong for many decades. |
| 0:10.7 | As a successful lawyer, a reform-minded member of the Legislative Council, |
| 0:15.9 | and for the last three years, a member of the Executive Council advising the chief executive of Hong Kong |
| 0:23.6 | Carrie Lamb. In other words, Ronnie Tong has been on quite a journey, from supporter of |
| 0:30.1 | democratic reform to Beijing loyalist. Now Mr. Tong finds himself defending a draconian new national security law imposed on Hong Kong by the Chinese government, |
| 0:42.9 | a law that imposes severe punishment on those found guilty of a raft of vaguely defined crimes, |
| 0:49.2 | including terrorism, subversion, collusion and secession. |
| 0:57.4 | Critics, both within Hong Kong and in western capitals have condemned it as a grave breach of the one country two systems principle |
| 1:03.4 | underpinning Hong Kong's governance for the last 23 years. So, has Beijing just suffocated the life out of Hong Kong's special status? |
| 1:15.4 | Well, Ronnie Tong joins me now on the line from Hong Kong. |
| 1:19.7 | Welcome to Hard Talk. |
| 1:21.2 | Hello. |
| 1:22.2 | Let me begin with the concept of consultation. |
| 1:26.5 | Are you comfortable with the fact that China has just imposed a law |
| 1:31.3 | on the territory of Hong Kong with no meaningful consultation with the government or people of Hong Kong? |
| 1:41.4 | I don't think that is quite right. I think there are two things one need to remember. |
| 1:46.6 | First of all, it is a law enacted by the mainland, according to their legislative law. It is not a law |
| 1:54.6 | enacted by the legislative council. So they would consult the way in which their law provides as to how to consult in relation to a lawmaking process. |
| 2:05.8 | I want to say that there was no meaningful consultation. I think quite a contrary. |
| 2:10.9 | A lot of people put in opinion and advice and I did so also. |
| 2:16.7 | And the government was consulted, the basic law committee was |
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