Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker.

My guest today will forever be remembered for her groundbreaking work,

observing chimpanzees in the remote forests of what is now Tanzania.

Jane Goodall, then still in her 20s and without former scientific training,

catalogued behaviours which transformed our view of

the primates, their capacities and their relationship to humankind. That pioneering research work

was done in the 1960s. Ever since then, Jane Goodall has been at the forefront of efforts to

protect and better understand the world's primates,

and to encourage all of us to engage in efforts to protect the natural world from our most damaging behaviours.

Along the way, she's founded a host of global conservation organizations, been featured in dozens of

films and one admirers around the world. But at the age of 86, how much difference does she feel

she's been able to make? Well, Jane Goodall joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk. Well, thank you.

Thank you for inviting me to Hard Talk.

It is a pleasure having you on the program, and it strikes me this year is a rather remarkable

anniversary for you. It is 60 years from the beginning of your work in what we now call Tanzania,

your observation of the chimpanzees in the forest. When you consider the 60-year

span of time, what is your overriding feeling when you reflect on what has happened in those six

decades? Well, the world has changed. There's no question, it's changed rather dramatically.

When I first arrived at the Gombe, now the Gombe National Park, it was part of the great

equatorial forest belt that stretched from the western part of East Africa right across to

the West African coast.

And when I flew over Gombe National Park, which is very small, in 1990,

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