From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertram.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome in to another

edition of the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On this episode, we'll talk with R.J. Pastrido,

professor of politics at Hillsdale, about the progressive rejection of the founding. F.H. Buckley

discusses his new book, American Secession. Corey Moss from Hillsdale's History Department on early Christianity.

And Kyle Mernan, the director of online learning at Hillsdale, will tell us all about

the redesigned online.hillsdale.edu, where you find our online courses.

We're joined now by Dr. Ronald Pastrida, Dean of the Van Andal Graduate School of Statespinship at Hillsdale College,

Professor of Politics, and Charles and Lucia Shipley Chair in the American Constitution.

Dr. Pestrito, thanks for joining us.

Happy to be here.

We talk a bit about the Constitution 101 course.

You can find that at online.hillsdale.edu.

One of the chapters that, uh, uh,

chapters that you teach is on the progressive rejection of the founding. And that's, we want to

spend a little bit of time talking about today, Dr. Pastrido. Let's begin with a, a definition. Uh,

what is progressivism? When did it begin? What are the core ideas of the movement?

Yeah, so progressivism is basically a movement, an argument that we see taking shape

toward the end of the 19th century and then, you know, really strong into the early

part of the 20th century, that made the case

for moving beyond the principles of the American founding. And the contention was that the nation

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