Romans 9:13 DeCalvinized

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

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🗓️ 18 November 2019

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Dr. Flowers, Director Evangelism and Apologetics for Texas Baptists, walks through the context of Romans 9:13 to reveal the faulty presuppositions that Calvinists read into the text based on their Calvinistic systematic. Dr. Flowers’ book, “The Potter’s Promise” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Potters-Promise-Biblical-Traditional-Soteriology/dp/0692561846/ref=nodl_

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0:00.0	The ninth chapter of Romans is probably the most contended chapter in all of Scripture with regard to the doctrine of our salvation,
0:07.0	especially the portion that reads, for this was how the promise was stated.
0:12.0	At the appointed time, I will return, and Sarah will have a son.
0:16.0	Not only that, but Rebecca's children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. Yet, before
0:22.4	the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that God's purpose and election
0:27.4	might stand, not by works but by him who calls, she was told, the older will serve the younger.
0:34.5	Just as it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated. For the purpose of this
0:41.3	presentation, we will focus solely upon God's expression of love for Jacob and hatred for
0:47.3	Esau. We will be looking at four specific points of contention with regard to God's express love
0:53.3	and hatred. One, is it literal or
0:56.5	idiomatic? Two, is it about salvation or service? Three, is it individualistic or national? And
1:06.0	four, is it unconditional or conditional? First, let's consider God's hatred for Esau.
1:13.6	Is it literal or is it idiomatic?
1:16.6	Did, in other words, God literally hate, as in to despise or reject Esau
1:22.6	before he was even born and done anything good or bad?
1:26.6	If so, we must consider the implications of this interpretation. before he was even born and done anything good or bad?
1:31.3	If so, we must consider the implications of this interpretation.
1:36.6	Esau, under the Calvinistic interpretation, would represent all non-elect people.
1:42.0	Therefore, anyone and everyone who does not eventually come to faith in Christ are considered the non-elect or the reprobates under the Calvinistic
1:46.2	worldview. That would suggest that God hates and or rejects most of the unborn. Is that really what
1:54.5	Paul means to say here? John Calvin, the namesake for the Calvinistic systematic, seems to think so.
2:01.4	He says, quote, individuals are born who are doomed from the womb to certain death,
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