This is not 99% invisible, but I am Roman Mars.

This is a special presentation of the newest radiotopia podcast, Zigzag.

We're in Manou's Summer Odie and Gen Poient,

create a new woman run podcast company called Stable Genius Productions.

They're exploring funding through traditional avenues but also through cryptocurrency.

Inside of the reality show that follows their progress, you're going to learn a lot about the

digital economy and how decentralized cryptocurrency could change everything.

Or not, it's a huge experiment that you don't want to miss.

I'm in this episode that we're featuring a whole lot,

so I thought that 99 PI fans would dig it.

It's super fun, but unlike 99% invisible,

there is swearing in Zigzag, even icewear in Zigzag.

So I just want to warn you.

All right, enjoy.

I'm a new summer Odie and this is chapter four of Zigzag,

a podcast about changing the course of capitalism, journalism, and women in tech.

We're exploring these very big ideas through our own personal story.

At this point, it's late April and Gen and I still don't have enough money coming in to pay ourselves.

We're moms.

Not having paychecks was giving us stomach aches and eye twitches.

Was it time to nail down a plan B, a financial backup?

Or is this just how startups work?

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