Hey everybody, welcome to the Dream Big Podcast and my favorite thing to do again is to

just introduce you to friends and reacquaint you with friends that you already have.

Many of you already know Roma Downing.

She's just a delight and been a friend for a long time and she has a new book called

Be an Angel and for those of you that can go back to like captured by an angel days.

One of the things that's consistent about Roma is that she just loves people well.

I've just felt so cared for as a friend for years and years so welcome.

Roma, I'm so glad you're on the podcast.

Hello, Bob.

It's really good to see you and thank you so much for having me on.

I really appreciate it.

Yeah, I know one of your favorite things is butterflies.

So every time I see a butterfly, bigger, smaller, my car, Roma would love this thing.

You know, it's so great since, you know, my last book about one was called Box of Butterflies

and in that book, I shared with everyone the significance of the butterfly has had in

my life from the time my mother died when I was just a young child.

And a butterfly had flown over her grave and my father almost absolutely said, would

you look at that wee butterfly?

I could be your mother's spirit right there and all through my life, Bob, if I was having

a challenge or something, you know, I had questions, I was praying to God for answers,

somehow the butterfly seemed to be used in a symbolic way, you know, as a significant

meaning in my life that would come in, it would validate something I was asking about.

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