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Hey everybody, welcome to the writing room, and it's Bob here with Kimberly.

Kim, how are you today?

Oh, great Bob.

Thanks for getting all of us together.

Such a fun thing. You guys are in a treat.

We're going to introduce you to Laura McCowan here in a moment.

But this podcast is for people, some of whom want to write.

Others just are trying to grow.

They're trying to be in touch with the stories.

They're telling.

They want to get more honest and authentic with them. And if faith guides your steps, then that's terrific. And

if it doesn't, like, that's terrific. I just want you have a safe place to say, like, can you just

come here? And for the next 30 minutes, you know why you believe what you believe. And to say,

can we add to that some additional layers? And so, Kim know why you believe what you believe. And to say, can we add to that some additional

layers? And so, Kim, will you introduce Laura and we can just jump in? Yes, I'm so excited.

Laura McCown is joining us today. She is an author twice over. We're so excited to have you here.

We're excited to talk about your brand new book

called Push Off from Here. And I would love for you to start us off by telling the story behind

that title. I sneak peek. I already know, but I want you to say it out loud. It's a beautiful story.

Sure. And thank you for having me, both of you. Push Off from here came from a woman that I met at my first 12-step

meeting in 2013. I was a mess in that meeting, as many people are in their first. And I only went

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