I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about the accelerated velocity of terminological in-exactitude.

That's just our fancy way of saying that we're a couple of admitted horrors who love to gossip about teen rom-coms, like EasyA.

Emma, there's a higher power that will judge you for your indecency.

Oh yes, I am familiar with Tom Cruise.

He's always watching. Here to talk to us about EasyA, Emma Stone, Penn Badgley, and Amanda Bines is movie critic Amy Nicholson.

Thanks so much for joining us today.

Hi everybody, I actually laughed at that line because I wrote a book on Tom Cruise.

Oh yeah, this dark period to be Tom Cruise.

Oh my god, the things he could certainly tell us about Tom Cruise, I'm not even sure I want to know.

So Amy, thank you for joining us for this movie. We're really excited to talk easyA.

But let's start a little broader. We wanted to know what your relationship to rom-coms and romantic movies is and has been.

Oh absolutely. I mean, I love them, but I think only recently have I been able to go back and rewatch them without that kind of, I've never been in love resentment.

Do you know what I mean? We're like, you are a teenager, you're watching rom-coms and Emma Stone is winding up with like Woodchuck Todd, who seems like an angel.

And I don't have a woodchuck Todd in my life. And I'm like, I like this movie, but I hate this movie.

I mean, it's too jealous. I was too jealous. So I watched a lot of movies sort of with one foot out.

And now that I'm, you know, very happy I don't want my boyfriend to be together.

Pazilans of years, he cries at the notebook, angel of a human being.

Oh, I love your boyfriend too. He sounds wonderful. He sounds a lot like Woodchuck Todd.

He is a lot like Woodchuck. He actually is a lot like, oh God. Very similar.

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