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Leaders with Francine Lacqua

Rolls-Royce CEO Tufan Erginbilgiç on Turning Around a ‘Burning Platform’

Leaders with Francine Lacqua

Bloomberg

Management, Business, Careers, Entrepreneurship

4.664 Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Rolls-Royce’s turnaround made Tufan Erginbilgiç one of the most closely watched CEOs in Europe. In this episode of Leaders, he tells Francine Lacqua how he used data, discipline and direct communication to change the trajectory of the company — and what other leaders can learn about strategy, culture and long-term growth.

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. I'm Dylan Dreyer, co-host of the third hour of today and mom to three wild boys.

0:06.0

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0:10.7

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0:20.3

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0:22.7

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0:27.0

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1:00.0

I'm Francie Lacqua and this is Leaders, the podcast that explores what drives the world's most influential people.

1:08.0

This week I'm speaking to Tufan Ergen Bilgich, the chief executive of Rolls-Royce, the aerospace and defense company.

1:15.4

Historically, a jewel of British industry, when Ergen Bilgich took over in 2023, it was on shaky ground.

1:22.6

It had underperformed for over a decade and been battered by the COVID pandemic with shares down almost

1:28.8

70% during his predecessor's time. Since taking over, Ergen Bilgich has set in motion a dramatic

1:36.1

restructuring defined by thousands of job cuts, contractory negotiations, and widespread culture

1:42.4

change. For the company, all of that pain has paid off.

1:47.7

His tenure was described by McKinsey as a case study in the art of corporate transformation.

1:54.0

I wanted to know what gave him the confidence to institute such radical change,

1:59.0

how he actually did it, and whether he sees himself as a standard

2:02.8

bearer for British industry.

2:12.2

Tufan, thank you so much for joining us.

2:14.2

Great to be here.

2:15.4

Now, you took over Rolls-Royce in January of 2023, and quickly

2:19.0

you made waves with a speech, right, where you talk about a burning platform that every

2:24.3

investment we make, we destroy value. Why did you decide to be so tough? I'm not sure I was tough,

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