Roland Martin’s Deleted Post and Jamilah Lemieux on Black Relationships

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2026

⏱️ 136 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to Mary J. Blige’s comments on her 2012 Burger King commercial before discussing Roland Martin’s response to Justin Fairfax killing his wife, Cerina, and then himself. Then writer Jamilah Lemieux joins to talk about her new book, ‘Black. Single. Mother.: Real Life Tales of Longing and Belonging.’ (0:00) Intro (4:49) Mary J. Blige’s Burger King commercial (16:04) Roland Martin’s response to the Fairfax murder-suicide (46:06) Jamilah Lemieux joins the show (48:16) Shame in being a single mom? (1:02:29) A conversation about Black women and men (1:33:08) Decentering men (1:55:59) Should a man check his friends? Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Jamilah Lemieux Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up?
0:09.3	How I'm learning is on, is Ivan Lathin Jr. And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:12.8	Jamila Lemieux is on the podcast today.
0:16.0	Mm-hmm. Black single mother's name of the book. Yep. We talked to her for nearly two hours.
0:20.5	Which means it was a great conversation, guys. It's a great conversation. So many ways you can talk about. Black single mother's name of the book. Yep. We talked to her for nearly two hours.
0:23.0	Which means it was a great conversation, guys.
0:23.8	It's a great conversation.
0:27.6	So many ways you can talk about this book, and I feel like we only tap the surface.
0:28.2	Yeah.
0:30.9	We got into a question at the end.
0:33.7	I want to know, particularly the Thought Warriors.
0:38.3	We talked about a lot of things that are more important in this question. I particularly want to know the thought warriors thoughts on this.
0:41.3	Do you get involved in...
0:44.3	You can hear that?
0:46.3	Yes. What's going on? You have some pork this morning?
0:49.3	Onions. I had a lot of onions last night.
0:52.3	Bacon and onions?
0:53.3	I didn't have any bacon, actually.
0:54.5	Sorry, sorry.
0:55.1	Okay, do the question again.
0:56.3	Do you get involved in your friend's relationship issues?
1:01.8	Like, if you saw a friend doing something that you thought was detrimental to their relationship, infidelity, like, leading somebody on, all of that stuff.
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