Decency and Dave Chappelle. Plus, Should Former Trump Allies Be Embraced?

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 131 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel discuss the mysterious circumstances around the death of an influencer before diving into Dave Chappelle’s interview with NPR and Democratic Representative Ilhan Omar’s comments on embracing Trump allies. Plus, an argument for Trump being the Antichrist. Then, Michael Tubbs, a candidate for lieutenant governor of California, joins the show. (0:00) Intro (06:38) The mysterious death of an influencer (13:49) Dave Chappelle's NPR interview (37:26) Representative Ilhan Omar on former Trump allies (1:05:42) Pete Hegseth’s ‘Pulp Fiction’ prayer (1:15:07) Tamera Mowry and Threads (1:18:18) Michael Tubbs joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Michael Tubbs Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett This just in, the Comcast Business Price Lock Guarantee is back. For a limited time you can lock in the same great rate on gig speed internet and advanced security for 5 years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors, what is up?
0:11.1	Higher Learning is on and Zy Van Lathen Jr.
0:13.6	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:15.1	Boy, you have a pep in your step this morning.
0:17.6	I wonder why.
0:18.8	This is my birthday, guys.
0:19.6	It's his birthday, yay.
0:20.7	Happy birthday, happy birthday, Van. Happy birthday. It's very special. I feel like you're really enjoying your birthday this. You don't like, I feel like when we're like, oh, it's Van's birthday, he's like, ah, let's just move on. I like that you're taking it all in i'm fine with me i don't care
0:39.5	about it anymore see see i'm sorry i brought it up i triggered it you care you care we care
0:45.8	the thought warriors care we are so happy to celebrate you today they care another year i'm sorry
0:53.8	i literally just triggered.
0:55.0	You were actually in a positive mood and I just triggered this.
0:59.0	Well, you know what happened?
1:01.0	I need my glasses.
1:02.0	You love to be cynical.
1:04.0	You love to be a contrarian.
1:06.0	I love to be cynical.
1:07.0	And then for a moment the other side came out because there's the other side.
1:11.7	And you caught yourself
1:13.2	and you're trying to go back to it.
1:14.6	Just be happy.
1:15.7	Just celebrate your birthday.
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