Roger Stone on pardoning, Trump's arrest and Ron DeSantis
Americano
The Spectator
4 • 714 Ratings
🗓️ 24 March 2023
⏱️ 36 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. Absolutely free. Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash voucher. |
| 0:26.3 | Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American power, politics and society. |
| 0:36.3 | On each episode, I will talk to an American expert or an expert on America |
| 0:41.3 | about something that's going on in America in 2023. I am delighted to be joined today by |
| 0:48.6 | Roger Stone, the Republican strategist and advisor to several Republican presidents from Richard Nixon to Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump. |
| 0:58.7 | And Roger, I think you're the perfect person to talk to about this story because you have been |
| 1:03.3 | pardoned by President Trump, having been convicted on multiple counts in connection with the |
| 1:10.1 | Russiagate inquiry. Donald Trump pardoned you. |
| 1:12.9 | Just to be clear, convicted of lying under oath about Russian collusion that never took place. |
| 1:19.0 | That never took place, yeah. Yeah. So that... |
| 1:21.3 | It is kind of shocking that on November 3rd, 2020, almost a year after my pardon, Robert Mueller was forced to disgorge by a |
| 1:32.0 | federal judge, the last remaining redacted section of his final report in which he admitted |
| 1:38.0 | that he had found, quote, no factual evidence, close quote, against Roger Stone regarding |
| 1:43.8 | Russian collusion, WikiLeaks |
| 1:45.8 | collaboration, or any other crime. So I was charged for lying in my voluntary testimony to |
| 1:54.3 | Congress. No misstatement I made was material. There was no underlying crime to hide, such as a Russian collusion. I was really |
| 2:03.8 | charged to pressure me to testify falsely against Donald Trump, which I refused to do. Trump saw |
| 2:10.8 | the unfairness of my trial. I had a hostile judge. I had a corrupted jury forewoman. I had a stacked jury, I had a corrupted jury for a woman, I had a stacked jury, I had the last |
| 2:22.1 | remaining redacted sections of the report were withheld from my defense attorneys at trial, |
| 2:27.2 | so they were withholding exculpatory evidence. He saw the unfairness of my trial and he gave |
| 2:32.1 | me an unconditional part. Continue. I do, I do remember |
| 2:35.5 | it. I remember studying quite closely at the time. And obviously, you're not a neutral person |
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