Roger Pielke Jr.

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Lance Armstrong

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🗓️ 20 May 2019

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Roger Pielke Jr. is a professor at the University of Colorado Boulder. His research interests include Environmental Science, Innovation and Politics as well as Governance of Sports Organizations. He sat down with Lance in Austin to talk about the Caster Semenya case. Caster was recently ruled ineligible to run unless she takes medication to reduce her testosterone levels. Pielke was a witness in the case. Lance and Roger wrap up the show discussing doping in sport.

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0:00.0	Hi everybody welcome back to the Ford podcast I'm your host Lance Armstrong if you're listening to this episode
0:06.7	this will make no sense to you if you're watching it on YouTube or Facebook
0:10.3	yes I am on a bike ride in the middle of a bike ride. I just rode down here and recording this intro and I'm going to keep riding.
0:17.5	So that's why I'm wearing bike clothes and my hair looks like shit.
0:21.5	Anyways, that's just it. My guess this week is actually an old friend of mine, not an old friend of mine, but if you know somewhat of an old friend of mine, a really good guy by the name of Roger Pylke. So Roger is a professor of ethics at the University of
0:35.0	Colorado in Boulder. I've spoken at his class a few times, really enjoy his time, really
0:41.0	come to respect, not just his intellect but also his fairness
0:45.6	and neutrality on a lot of issues and just it really his objectiveness and so today
0:51.8	we're going to talk primarily about the Castor Semenya case, which was just
0:57.7	arbitrated over at Kast, the Court of Arbitration in Sport in Switzerland.
1:02.1	Unfortunately for her, she lost that case and is now no longer
1:05.5	allowed to compete as a woman. So the discussion is really in and around as I told Roger, the more I studied for this podcast, the more confused I got.
1:18.0	I mean, as you start to learn about intersex humans and X and Y chromosomes and boys and girls and testosterone levels and then
1:31.2	lay over that the rules and regulations of, you know, governing bodies, I-A-A-F,
1:36.3	and then, you know, the, you know, the arbitrary or the arbitration panel over at Cass.
1:41.7	It's just a confusing case and there's really net,
1:44.2	net there's no winners. You know she certainly didn't win. I don't think I double
1:48.2	AF ends up winning. I think they look bad. Cass doesn't win because, you know, showcases just the biased nature of that court.
1:58.6	It just didn't work and so he sheds a really interesting light on it and then also full disclosure he was
2:04.8	her expert witness at her arbitration over in Switzerland.
2:10.0	So he did spend the week with her and got to know her quite well and has, you know, I suspect
2:15.6	Stronger opinions on this but you'll see he's a very fair man and it was a it was a fascinating discussion
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