Roger Penrose: Why Quantum Mechanics Needs a New Foundation

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

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🗓️ 28 September 2024

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Sir Roger Penrose explains twistor theory, singularity theorems, and their implications for quantum cosmology. We discuss his singularity theorems, the chiral nature of twistors, extra dimensions, and the philosophical implications for free will and the nature of reality.- 00:00 - Intro- 01:22 - Twistors & cosmology- 15:00 - Most significant thought- 20:45 - Twistors are chiral- 25:34 - Extra dimensions- 27:02 - Geometry overview- 37:57 - Grothendieck- 40:36 - Gravity & QM- 43:00 - Wave function collapse- 53:04 - Gravitational fields & wave function- 01:11:02 - Free will- 01:14:03 - Discrete vs continuous universe- 01:16:35 - AI capabilities- 01:19:09 - Many worlds theory- 01:20:38 - Idealism- 01:21:35 - CCC- 01:23:31 - Penrose’s legacy- 01:33:25 - Outro & supportSPONSORS:- I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE- INDEED: Boost job visibility – https://indeed.com/theories- HELLOFRESH: Free breakfast for life – https://www.HelloFresh.com/freetheoriesofeverything- PLANET WILD: First month free, use code EVERYTHING9 – https://planetwild.com/r/theoriesofeverything/joinRESOURCES:- Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!)- Listen to TOE on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Become a YouTube Member Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join- Join TOE's Newsletter 'TOEmail' at https://www.curtjaimungal.org- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's outrageous. The theory is outrageous. Quantum theory as a whole is wrong. It's not Einstein was wrong. Quantum mechanics is wrong.
0:11.3	What do consciousness, the measurement problem, and black holes have in common? With characteristic boldness, Sir Roger Penrose outlines his controversial views on the collapse of the
0:22.4	wave function. The Schrodinger equation, quantum theory as a whole, is wrong. The role of gravity
0:28.7	in quantum mechanics? The principle of equivalence, which is the basis of general relativity,
0:33.9	is in conflict with the principle of superposition. And his own radical theory of cyclic cosmology.
0:40.6	I don't believe in inflation.
0:42.2	That is the idea that our universe evolved from a previous universe
0:47.0	and gives rise to another forming an ever-repeating cycle.
0:52.2	Penrose doesn't just poke holes in existing theories. He offers ambitious
0:56.4	frameworks like Twister theory that could potentially unify quantum theory with general relativity.
1:02.7	My name is Kurt Jymongle. This episode was filmed on location at the Math Institute at Oxford,
1:09.7	directly after our interview at the Institute for Arts
1:12.8	and Ideas. It's a rare in-person glimpse into one of the most influential mathematicians and
1:18.9	physicists of the 20th century. Sir Roger Penrose, it's been a long time coming. I've been a huge
1:27.4	fan for, I think, decades,
1:29.8	literally decades. Thank you and welcome.
1:33.3	My pleasure. Good meeting you at the Institute for Arts and Ideas.
1:37.3	Lots of people don't believe some of them.
1:40.3	The arts and ideas, what do you mean?
1:42.3	Well, the ideas about cosmology which i have which are
1:45.7	certainly people have a lot of trouble believing them even though we have good evidence yeah
1:53.2	still never mind is that the torch that you want passed on most the conformal cyclic cosmology
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