Hello and welcome to another episode of Happy Mum Happy Baby. Today's guest, well she's

one fifth of the Saturdays and she's also a blooming great TV presenter and mum of two

gorgeous girls. It's Michelle here! Thank you, that was so lovely. Well it's just very

it's like hardly any of the things that you do to your eyes. You do so much, you can't

keep on running around too. Oh my god you too, we keep on wanting to Instagram now. I

feel like that's how I know what everyone's up to in life. I know it used to be Facebook,

you know you just want to know what people you knew were up to. Yeah and now it's anyone's

just the world isn't it? I feel bad because unless you're on my interest to feed I really

want to remember when your birthday is so I had it promise me to send a message to say

happy birthday. Terrible, absolutely terrible. Michelle, so this podcast is all about basically

I wrote a book where I was very honest about being a mum of my account and other things

and stuff and this podcast is basically opening that up to other people so I'm I'm

inviting you to be very honest with me. Oh good. Tell me all your secrets. All your

ideas are important. I don't know how to be anything but that's what I know about.

Do you know what I've been really looking forward to this episode because I just know that

it's going to be just a nice chat. Yeah, good nice cat chat. Yeah exactly we don't get

it. No. Michelle, what kind of mum did you think you were going to be before you became

a mum? That's such a good question because I don't really know. I think you have an idea

of in my head a parent one way but in the moment a lot is different isn't it? So I think

I thought you know I want to do everything properly and and yeah but then it just doesn't

like that. It just doesn't as much as I try and I think I thought I'd be quite firm and

I'm probably firmer than I thought. Really? Yeah. Things like manners and you know just

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