Hey friend, welcome to the Mere Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians? Those of us who aren't pastors or religious

professionals, but who work as floor layers, SEO strategists, and judicial law clerks.

That's the question we explore every week. And today, I'm posing it to Robin John,

CEO of Even-Tied Asset Management, a pioneering asset management firm that seeks to make the world rejoice through their investments.

And they're doing that at a pretty remarkable scale with more than $7 billion in assets under

management.

Robin and I sat down recently to talk about how to guarantee eternal success in any endeavor.

We talked about the six criteria that Even Tide uses to evaluate investments that make

the world rejoice and how we can stop thinking selfishly about our investments, about our

votes, and about our time.

Trust me, you're not going to want to miss this terrific episode with Robin John.

Robin John, welcome to the Mir Christian's podcast, brother. So thrilled you're here.

Thank you so much, Jordan. This is super fun. I've been reading your story for a long time.

You've been reading my kids book to your kids for a long time.

And now we get to hang live, right?

And hey, listen, I got to start here because I hate it when podcasts assume that everybody in the audience understands the job that people do.

So before we talk about Even Tide specifically, let's start with a 60 second synopsis

of what an asset management firm does. Explain it to my 10-year-old, Robin. Yeah, so really,

we are allocating capital. So the question is, where should capital be allocated?

And ultimately, when you're allocating capital, you are allocating capital into real companies, real businesses that are either serving real needs of the world or they are just

allocating capital into businesses that might be trying

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