It's hard not to see this as the Robert's grand finale of the year, where he gets to finish with two big cases, with seven to majorities that show him up as a kind of political hero against Trump.

Hi and welcome to our special edition, end-of-term Amicus podcast.

This is being taped literally moments after the ink is drying on the term's

blockbuster decisions about the president's financial documents.

The 2019 term melted a little past its usual

end date and on into the second week of July. But here we are to talk about it, fingers covered

in ink still. Joining me to chew on this very, very last day of the term are three of my very

favorite court watchers, and they

are Dean Irwin Chimerinsky. He's Dean and the Jesse H. Chopper, Distinguished Professor of

Law at Berkeley Law. Over his career, his courses have focused on constitutional law, First

Amendment law, federal courts, criminal procedure. He has also frequently argued appellate cases, some at the

Supreme Court. Any of you who are taking the bar probably are reliant on him in ways I cannot

imagine. Erwin also helped us open the term back in the fall. Erwin, it's good to talk to you again.

It's always great to be with you. And Zephyr Teachout is here. She is an

associate professor of law at Fordham University, former candidate for governor, Congress,

and Attorney General in New York, and a former death penalty lawyer. Her forthcoming book,

Break them Up, recovering our freedom from big ag, big tech, and big money will be published later this month.

Zephyr, it's good to have you back. Oh, it's wonderful to be on. And I should note, Zephyr,

you are the one who taught us all about emoluments for the first time right at the beginning of the Trump

administration. And of course, here we have Slate's own Mark Joseph Stern, who covers the courts and the law and many, many things for us at Slate and largely has kept me sane this past week.

Mark, welcome back.

Thank you.

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