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Matt D’Elia Is Confused

Robert P. Jones | White Too Long

Matt D’Elia Is Confused

Matt D'Elia

Society & Culture

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

NEW GUEST! Robert P. Jones, founder of PRRI (the Public Religious Research Institute) was kind enough to come on the show to discuss his new book— ‘White Too Long: The Legacy Of White Supremacy in American Christianity’. Matt picks Robert’s brain about how scripture has long been used by both white supremacists and American Christians as a defense of (and not as a deterrent to) abhorrent behavior, how they have historically rationalized that abhorrent behavior, the massive contradictions within the modern Christian community that continue to aid its avoidance of serious reflection or moral inquiry, the surprising truth about the many confederate monuments still standing around the country (there are 1750 of them!), and the various potential futures (both hopeful and not-so-hopeful) of the enduring ‘unholy alliance’ between American Christianity and white supremacy. Also, Matt finally gets to the bottom of why white Christians insist Jesus was white even though he absolutely was definitely 100% not white at all and that’s completely obvious to anyone who thinks about it for even one tiny shred of one measly second.

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Hello and welcome to Matalea is confused. This is Matalea and this week's episode or rather

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this episode this week. I might drop another episode in a couple days, but this episode features a guest. I haven't had a

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guest in a couple weeks and I was very excited for this guest. Doubly

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excited because he, the guest, was suggested by one of you, one of my listeners.

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listener to this show, so you will know who I'm talking about and I thank you. I

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