Welcome the shaken and disturbed, everyone.

I am Father God Darren Karp here with Mother God John Thrasher, doing some sort of Zen

spiritual Tai Chi mixed with pho-gang. With just being gayoging, something.

With just being gay, yeah, exactly.

I will say love is one because we always introduce each other as father and mother God.

I do think that's the documentary that has stood the test of time on shaken and disturbed.

I agree, well, certainly with our intro, if nothing else, but it's just stuck with us though.

I just will never forget.

And I know you know exactly what I'm about to say.

The feeling I had in those opening scenes.

Yeah, see, in those opening scenes of the blue corpse.

It's just like wrapped in Christmas tree lights.

And you're just like, that was the first 20 seconds of the duck? And I remember, I feel like, yeah, it was. And I feel like you were like, no, you must, you must watch this. There's no debate. And I wasn't wrong. And you weren't wrong. And it turned out to be a very fascinating conversation. Yes. I just will never forget the feeling. I remember where I was,

what I was wearing. Like, it's one of those, you know where you were at 9-11. You knew where you

were like, da-da, like, that is the type of trauma response I was having. I think even my brother

had texted me. I can't remember if I watched it before him or he watched it before me, but I

have a vague memory of him texting me being like, you know a doc's going to be good when a corpse is wrapped up and Christmas lights in his colloidally silver blue in the house. And you're like, it is going to be a good documentary. That turned out to be he was dead on. No pun intended on that one. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into this week's case, John. If you don't mind. Let's get right to it. On June 26th, 1953, Robert John Maudsley was born in, is it spec? Speak or spec somewhere in your Liverpool. Can you ask the internet how to pronounce that? I'll ask the internet. Thank you. Thank you. We do that. The only salving grace here is that it's in Liverpool. It's not like

in the United States. So we can't. We don't have to know it. Yeah, we don't have to know it. It's a different

intonation of English. So we're okay. Speak. Speak. Okay. It was born in Speak Liverpool as the fourth of 12 children.

I mean, the middle child and 12 children is like, what, 2 through 11, right?

What's that?

Yeah.

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