Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

Delighted welcome to the show of California congressman representing much of Silicon Valley.

He serves on the House Armed Services Committee and on the Oversight and Accountability Committee. It's Roe Cona. Welcome to the show.

Great to be back. Man, good to have you. I guess my first question for you, is there anybody else in

Congress besides you and Thomas Massey? Are you the only people actually in Congress?

You know, that's not fair to all my colleagues, but we have been coincidentally at the center of the two most consequential issues, the Epstein Files and the war in Iran.

And I think what we show with our work is that the coalitions are scrambling in American politics

and that it's actually possible to find issues with disaffected mega voters. I mean, I would argue

that the Epstein files is the first time since Donald Trump came down the escalator that we actually said,

hey, Trump voters, what do you think? And can we work with you on an issue? And it turns out a lot

of them thought that government had been corrupted, that powerful people were using connections

to evade the law. In this case, in the most horrific way, trafficking underage girls and raping

underage girls.

And we built the coalition on that.

Similarly, a lot of them don't want us getting into war in the Middle East, don't want

gas prices going up, don't want service members dying for another Middle East war.

The boats on that one haven't quite

materialized like the boats have on Epstein. But Epstein was a uphill fight as well. And I believe we

can get to the same coalition on the war. Do you think the Magnavotas are coming? How does your

man Thomas Massey feel about his primary coming up? Obviously, Donald Trump was down there

with Jake Paul

in his district, making the contrary case. What's his sense for how things are going?

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