Riz Ahmed on bringing 'Hamlet' into the modern world
The Business
KCRW
4.5 • 697 Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
This week, Kim Masters speaks with Riz Ahmed about his modern retelling of Hamlet. The actor and producer discusses the decade-long journey of adapting the Shakespeare classic and how the project evolved from a planned Netflix streaming release to securing theatrical distribution with Focus Features. He also jokes about family members misinterpreting the significance of his Oscar-nominated performance in Sound of Metal and traces the origins of the “Riz Test,” a Bechdel-adjacent measure of Muslim representation in storytelling.
Plus, as theater owners and studio executives share their views on the Paramount–Warner Bros. deal at CinemaCon, thousands of industry professionals—including Ben Stiller, Kristen Stewart, and J.J. Abrams—have signed a petition to block the merger. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni examine Hollywood’s opposition and consider whether the growing outcry will have any real influence as the company seeks approval from regulators and shareholders.
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| 0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters and this is The Business. |
| 0:05.7 | Riz Ahmed earned an Oscar nomination for playing a drummer who's losing his hearing in the 2019 film Sound of Metal. |
| 0:13.0 | But that industry recognition didn't cut much ice in the family group chat. |
| 0:17.4 | My cousin genuinely was not sure exactly what that really meant. And he was like, |
| 0:22.6 | oh, great, is that like when I got regional employee of the month? And before I could respond, |
| 0:27.9 | another cousin said, no, his nomination is not like that because you actually won regional |
| 0:32.8 | employee of the month. Rez Ahmed talks about playing a modern hamlet in a new film, the product of a decade-long effort |
| 0:39.3 | to adapt the Shakespeare play. |
| 0:41.6 | This time, the Danish royals are replaced with wealthy South Asian family. |
| 0:46.3 | Ahmed also tells us about his Amazon show, Bait, in which he plays a conniving, aspiring |
| 0:50.8 | actor who pretends that he's in contention to be the next James Bond while coping with |
| 0:55.7 | crippling self-criticism. But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW. |
| 1:03.0 | I am joined by my partner in banter, Matt Bellany, from Cinemicon. Hello, Matt. Yes, glamorous |
| 1:09.3 | Las Vegas. I am here. |
| 1:16.6 | So I will note that there's been a lot of talk about windows and things that are being revealed to theater owners, and it's a good way to figure out who's got what coming up on |
| 1:20.8 | their slate, get a feel for how the theater owners respond. But also, of course, the theater |
| 1:25.1 | owners are now getting into the fight to try to block the |
| 1:28.9 | paramount acquisition of Warner. And they are not alone. A couple of thousand industry players, |
| 1:35.6 | you know, bold-faced name players, Brian Cranston, J.J. Abrams, who's not necessarily known for |
| 1:40.4 | injecting himself into this kind of thing. You know, Lynn Manuel Miranda, Ben Stiller, they have signed this petition saying that this |
| 1:47.9 | murder should not go through. |
| 1:49.0 | Now, do they have any power to stop this merger? |
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