Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and this is Family Talk, which is a radio division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

We discuss every day various aspects of the family, from marriage to child rearing and the culture around us and a whole lot of stuff.

And we have a very important topic to talk to you about today.

We're going to take a good, hard look at masculinity, which is embroiled now and has continued to be embroiled in a culture war.

Everything manly is subjected to ridicule and resentment in some circles.

Several months ago, I had lunch with Ken Harrison. We had just met, and we talked for more than an hour,

and he struck me that day and does today as a man's man. He had a good understanding of what

biblical masculinity is all about. He began his career as a police officer with the Los Angeles Police Department working in Compton, California, and that is a tough area of the city.

And he then became a successful businessman, had his own business, and he's now chairman of the board of a revitalized promise keepers organization. And he's written the rise of the

servant kings, what the Bible says about being a man. Ken, you've been sitting there listening to

all this. And I want to talk about your book, but tell me what your thinking has been what are you thinking about

i can see why you're so passionate about the issue uh as am i satan is the great liar and what he

wants to do is constantly change words make words that are awesome um means something else

masculinity is the definition of all of the positive aspects

of being a man, just like femininity is all the positive aspects of being a woman. I mean,

how silly would it be if we said toxic femininity when we were describing a woman who is behaving

poorly? When a man is behaving not like a man, he's not being masculine in any sense

of the word. And so to say toxic masculinity is to put a negative effect on a word that describes

how God created us. When a man treats women for his own gratification, when he's disrespectful to women,

when he's macho, violent, argumentative,

prideful, there's nothing mainly in any of those things. There's nothing masculine about that.

He is acting like the enemy of our souls. Yeah, we really ought to admit that there are an

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