It's the Brian Laird show on WNYc,

welcome. I'm Matt Katz, reporter in the

WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom and I'm filling in for Brian today. I spend much of my time in the newsroom reporting on the

jails at Rikers Island and there's been some news in recent days controversial

and a bit confusing news that we're going to dive into right now.

Over the weekend, Mayor Eric Adams declared a state of emergency in the jails

and he issued this unusual executive order to stop a law from being implemented.

It was about to go into effect, hours after he issued this order

was supposed to go into effect.

And the law banned the practice of holding detainees in solitary confinement.

Adams essentially scaled back this law.

This law had been passed twice by City Council, and that has obviously outraged city council.

So joining us now to talk through this issue

and how council might respond is council member

Carlina Rivera, who represents a Manhattan district

that includes Greenwich Village, Lower East Side, Union Square,

Murray Hill, Kips Bay.

Council member, thanks for being here, I appreciate it.

Thanks for having me.

Good morning. Good morning. And listeners, do you have any experience with this issue?

Were you held in solitary confinement or do you know someone who has been?

Are you a correction officer who thinks the city council is

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