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It's the Brian Laird Show on WNYc,

welcome back everybody. I'm Matt Katz hanging out in

Brian's seat today. And it's our climate story of the week now. We're joined by Rob Jackson,

a leading climate scientist and chair of the Global Carbon Project,

His new book, Into the Clear Blue Sky, The Path to Restoring Our Atmosphere, offers a hopeful vision for addressing the climate crisis and an argument for

redefining our most urgent goals. Jackson argues that simply stabilizing Earth's temperature isn't enough. We need to actively restore the

atmosphere to pre-industrial levels of greenhouse gases. It won't be easy. If my dreams were easy, Jackson writes, it wouldn't be a dream, but this could be achievable within our lifetime.

So we'll hear more about what it'd take to restore the atmosphere and learn about some of the

bold solutions on the way. Rob Jackson is also the chair of the Global Carbon

Project. He's a senior fellow at Stanford's Woods Institute for the Environment and

pre-court Institute for Energy, a professor of Earth Science at Stanford University

and his new book, Into the Clear Blue Sky, The Path to Restoring

our atmosphere. Professor Jackson, welcome to restoring our atmosphere.

Professor Jackson, welcome to WNYC.

Hi Matt, thanks for having me.

Oh, it's our pleasure.

I'm so interested in talking to you about this.

So let's start with some basic definitions here. What would

it mean to restore our atmosphere? What I mean by restoring the atmosphere is

returning concentrations of greenhouse gases back to

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