This is right now with Perry Bacon presented by the DSR Network.

I'm Perry Bacon. I'm the host of the New Republic Show right now. I'm joined by two great political

scientists. Hakeem Jefferson is at Stanford University. Jake Grumbeck is the University of

Berkeley. His afternoon for

them just barely, they're on the West Coast. I'm glad they're joining us today. And, you know,

these are two people I really enjoy talking to, but we're talking to them at a time that's not that

great, you know, literally about an hour ago. Tennessee voted to sort of eliminate their majority black congressional district

or seeing Alabama, South Carolina, a bunch of states talking about doing that after the Supreme Court

ruling last week, further gutting, almost invalidated in the voting rights act. So we're going to talk

about the fallout from that and what it means for black representation. So thanks guys for joining me. Thanks for a here, Perry. So, Hakeem, just talk about that, first of all, like, where we're talking about it. Out of the gate, man. Out of the gate, go ahead. The, you know, watch, you know, I think the question I'm going to ask people is, yes, you all specifically is Alito Roberts.

The Supreme Court is basically saying that black people are Democrats, so gerrymandering is, is,

is, is about partisanship.

And so it's fine if we get rid of all the black congressional decisions.

Those are just Democrats and the Republicans won the majority in those states.

They get to draw the lines.

So why does it matter that black globalization goes down in these states?

I mean, thanks again for having us, Perry.

I'm going to let Jake, because Jake had some insights that I thought were just right on the money on the piece he wrote.

So I'll let Jake talk about the sort of foolishness of the court's thinking

when it comes to partisanship and race, given what we political scientists.

I think Annabroa public know about the overlapping nature of partisanship and race in the U.S.

So I'm going to let Jake set the groundwork for that.

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