9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third

sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations

across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to Deep State Radio.

I am David Roscoff, your host. And this week,

we're here to talk a little bit about the president's trip to China. With us, of course, we have

Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center. How are you doing today, Rosa? I'm good, David.

Is that a Chinese communist vase you have behind you in the picture?

Yes, in fact, that is a Chinese Communist Party vase behind me.

I discovered it in my mother's old storage unit,

and it has a beautiful picture of Chairman Mao inspecting the troops.

Well, that ought to be a source of great pride for you and your family.

Well, I think we prepare to celebrate our new Chinese overlords, I thought it would be an

appropriate small gesture of respect.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, good thinking.

That's why people are tuning in to find out how we're supposed to behave around them.

And we also have with us our friend Ali Wine, who is senior research and advocacy advisor on U.S. China at the International Crisis Group.

Ali reports on and analyzes developments of U.S. policy towards China in the U.S.

Congress and in the executive branch. How are you doing, Ali? I'm doing well. Thanks very much for

having me. It's good to be back. It's great to have you back. And so, you know, let's do some

expectations setting here. And Ali, we will go let's do some expectations setting here.

...