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Hello there and welcome to the Run Club of the podcast world. Welcome to Run Pod where runners unite all of them, the elegant, the dainty, the thumpers, I think you can say that, the panters, the gazelles

and the plodders, no matter your style, no matter your speed or distance for that matter,

if you go out in your trainers for a run, you're a runner, that's it. I'm Jenny Faulkner,

and I'm thrilled to be joined this episode by someone who's actually known more for being a golfer,

or in fact, a golfer who

inspires and teaches other wannabe golfers, he's got something incredible, like half a billion

views and over 2 million subscribers on his YouTube channel. He also has his own podcast, but did you

know, he is also a runner. Welcome to Run Pod, Rick Shales.

Oh, thank you for having me. That was a lovely intro.

Thank you. I know it's very nice to have you. I'm here. I'm just going to come straight in my first question to you. You heard me describe different types of runners. Which one are you?

I'm built for distance, not speed, I would say.

So I actually really do enjoy running.

It's one of the hobbies that I've done probably for the longest period of time, apart from golf.

I'm not every single day, but I've just got my stats in front of me now.

I thought you might ask me on maybe some stats of my running. And I think I've been very consistent using

this particular running app for probably five or six years comfortably. Are you doing like a

Strava app kind of thing there and looking at your stats? I've got it in my hand right now. So if you

did need to quiz me, I'm prepared. I'm going to be honest. Do you know, I use Strava, but I only use it to just keep track of what I do.

There's loads of different stats on there. What is it that you look at when you're looking at your Strava?

Probably time and how consistent my runs are. Okay. So it's actually not Strava the app, but it's an app that I can't particularly mention for other reasons. Contractual obligations. Okay, fine. It's one that I've

particularly enjoyed using. So for me, I enjoy getting out there running. I feel like it's a lovely

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