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Conversations with Tyler

Rick Rubin on Listening, Taste, and the Act of Noticing

Conversations with Tyler

Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Rick Rubin has been behind some of the most iconic and successful albums in music history, and his unique approach to production and artist development has made him one of the most respected figures in the industry.

He joined Tyler to discuss how to listen (to music and people), which artistic movement has influenced him most, what Sherlock Holmes taught him about creativity, how streaming is affecting music, whether AI will write good songs, what he likes about satellite radio, why pro wrestling is the most accurate representation of life, why growing up in Long Island was a “miracle,” his ‘do no harm’ approach to working with artist, what makes for a great live album, why Jimi Hendrix owed his success to embracing technology, what made Brian Eno and Brian Wilson great producers, what albums he's currently producing, and more.

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Recorded January 13th, 2023

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0:00.0

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0:27.1

Hello everyone and welcome back to Conversations with Tyler.

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Today I am here with Frick Rubin, the Rick Rubin, who was one of the greatest musical producers.

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He has worked with, among many others, Jay-Z, Kanye, public enemy, many of the stars of

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early rap music, many of the stars of heavy metal, ACDC, Red Hot Chili Peppers, five albums

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there, Dixie Chicks, Johnny Cash, Tom Petty, Mick Jagger, Neil Young, Adele, and many more,

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and he has done an amazing two-hour Hulu special with Paul McCartney, but most notably, as

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of late this January, Rick has a new book out, a fascinating look at creativity called

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the Creative Act Away of Being.

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Rick, welcome.

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Thank you for having me, sir.

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What can we all do to become better listeners, and I mean to other human beings, not of music,

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not yet?

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Let's start with the thought to truly hope to understand what the other person is saying.

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And most of us, when listening, are formulating an opinion in either in response, what are

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we going to say in response, what do I think about this, or looking for something to disagree

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with, or a piece to latch on to, but we take a little piece and then tune out from what's

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being said.

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So, it's say any ability to turn our own filters off, forget about what we think, not be

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