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Katherine Rundell on the Art of Words

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Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Katherine Rundell is, in a word, enthusiastic. She’s enthusiastic about John Donne. She’s enthusiastic about walking along rooftops. She’s enthusiastic about words, and stories, and food. She has often started her morning with a cartwheel and is currently learning to fly a small plane. A prolific writer, her many children’s books aim to instill the sense of discovery she still remembers from her own unruly childhood adventures—and remind adults of the astonishment that still awaits them.

She joined Tyler to discuss how she became obsessed with John Donne, the power of memorizing poetry, the political implications of suicide in the 17th century, the new evidence of Donne’s faith, the contagious intensity of thought in 17th century British life, the effect of the plague on national consciousness, the brutality of boys’ schooling, the thrills and dangers of rooftop walking, why children should be more mischievous, why she’d like to lower the voting age to 16, her favorite UK bookshop, the wonderful weirdness of Diana Wynne Jones, why she has at least one joke about Belgium in every book, what T.S. Eliot missed about John Donne, what it’s like to eat tarantula, the Kafka book she gives to toddlers, why The Book of Common Prayer is underrated, and more.

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Recorded September 2nd, 2022

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bridging the gap between academic ideas and real world problems.

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0:27.4

Hello everyone and welcome back to Conversations with Tyler.

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Today I'm chatting with Katherine Rundell.

0:33.4

Katherine is a fellow at All Souls College.

0:36.4

She is the best-selling author of numerous children's books.

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Every morning she wakes up and does a cartwheel.

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But most prominently for me, she is the author of the recent book Super Infinite,

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the Transformations of John Donne, which is this year so far,

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probably my favorite book of the year.

0:53.5

Katherine, welcome.

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Thank you so much for having me.

0:57.2

Okay, so John Donne, he's an English poet born in 1572.

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What is your origin story of how you became obsessed with him?

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I have parents who believed in the power of memorizing poetry.

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And in the idea that even if you memorize poetry that you don't understand,

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there will be a time in your life when it will come back for you.

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So I was paid to memorize poetry and my mother used to put it on the wall next to the sink

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where we would brush our teeth.

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